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Celtman
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 2:29 pm    Post subject: Death - Ever think about it Reply with quote

There's an interesting topic on the Runrig MB at the moment that my mate has started. I'll quote his post here and add some of my thoughts to it.

"Now I am a very deep thinker, so obviously I am going to ask myself questions about where I am what I am doing and what the heck this is all about.
So far I have come up with absolutely no answers as have every other deep thinker who has come before me.
But, because I can't come up with any answers, that doesn't mean that I will simply plump for the religion option and just hope that everything is going to be ok.
I have read a lot of the bible just to satisfy my own curiosity and even taking into consideration that it was written 2000 or so years ago by people who knew nothing about anything I can see absolutely nothing in it to make me say "Hey, yes God does exist and when I die I AM going to be saved and still in a conscious state."
So.....in my view of things, when we die, then it is just like it was before we were born. We neither know or feel anything for the rest of eternity.
Now as a human with thought and awareness, that is quite a terrifying thing and the actual moment of death to me seems like THE most horrible and terrifying thing that one can imagine.
But also on the other hand (I told you I was a deep thinker) if it really is like I think it is and there is nothing, then me worrying about it is really nothing because 1 second after it happens all of my worry will be gone and all of my fear will be gone and I will not only be totally oblivious to it but also to everything else.
Also if something could happen to make the ME that I am now come along (I mean why me, why am I inside this body?) then why couldn't something happen in the future to make me come along again. Nothing in the rules of physics covers the making of consciousness and whether it can happen more than once to the same entity.
Jesus I am deep tonight.
So........question is, does anyone else out there think as deeply as me or do I need to go get myself admitted to the psychy ward?
Personally I think I am right but then don't all loonies?"


A lot of that has made me think, I'll just add

On the subject of death, It would be great to think that there is something after we die. I believe more in spirituality than some heaven. It would be great to come back again in the future......do we have past lives.

There is no god......."Man made God in his own image"

Now if there is a heaven...and we all go there after we die....what is there...do we join up with our lost loved ones....do we go into the family again. If you have had a number of partners over the years and you meet them in heaven...do you have a relationship again...do your other partners get jealous again etc......or do we just go about smiling all the time.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't believe in life after death. I don't believe in reincarnation. I don't think there's a hell or a heaven. Sadly, I think this little, short span of time we have on Earth is all we got.

When I die, I want to be made into compost. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh dear.....how depressing it must be to think when we die there is no more. Confused
We live on, in a better place, after we die....I am convinced of it! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont think so much over my own death, what makes me the most sad is when I think of the day when my mum or dad will die (and I assume that I will be alive at that point). Confused
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe our energy continues after death...I suppose to the logical amoung us this seems pretty silly, but I don't think I would have as much impetus to be an ethical human being if I thought that this was it. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boo' please put a lock on this topic because its like the religion one's etc..........! I dont think we want to read about what u think of death because we are living for now not then!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's not a bad idea. Religion and politics are controversial topics that people feel very strongly about.

Moomintroll wrote:
Oh dear.....how depressing it must be to think when we die there is no more. Confused

That thought does not depress me. It validates my life experience at this moment on Earth right now.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craggy wrote:
Boo' please put a lock on this topic because its like the religion one's etc..........! I dont think we want to read about what u think of death because we are living for now not then!


There is nothing wrong with discussing Death Craig.

It is something we all have to face one day and is something we come across each day in our lives.

If you don't like the subject craig dont read it.

Has anyone made plans already for when the time comes.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a Tibetan Buddhist (Karma Kagyu) so I believe in reincarnation. It is very interesting to read what Buddhist teacher have written about death, they describe it from hour to hour and sometimes even from minute to minute. There are also certain courses of meditation a teacher can give to a group that will prepare them better when they'll die. This course takes about 5 days in our fast society.
In Tibetan Buddhism there are even ways of helping someone who has just died to make it easier and less traumatic.

But it all depends on what you believe to be true and what not.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

George Burns "There are only 2 certanties in life, death and taxes"

There is a big difference between this and the religous threads. This one asks a question and allows discussion of opinion.

I don't think about death at all unless I am watching Six Feet Under! I like to think that as energy never dies, it just changes form that there is a form of continum after death. Even if that is just that I become mulch to feed some grass and insects.

I also like to think that if there is a God (I'm hedging my bets a bit there!) that he/she/it will say that if you have been a good person but a non believer that you can still stay in heaven. Then they will chuck out those of faith who have used it to harm.

One thing is for sure, we will all find out eventually.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thought of death scares me and how life can suddenly end. Recently it was the 10 year anniversary of the death of a girl who was at my school. She was killed by a car aged just 17. She was my sisters age, it was such a tragedy.
I think the thing that death teaches me is that it happens to everyone, and at any time so you just have to live life to the full and love those close to you.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont like thinking about my death and I dont want to think about my death.
Theres no point spending your life worrying about something you have no controll over.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Celtman wrote:
Has anyone made plans already for when the time comes.

I want a proper old fashioned funeral, with open casket and everything. A funeral party afterwards, and a big old fashioned headstone with "Jesus Called" written on it, maybe a statue of a weeping angel as well. And I want to be buried next to my husband. I've a feeling I'm going to go first though.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a couple of options when I die, one is that I want my ashes scattered at Sligachan on Skye.

If Annedorte and I get married then I want to be buried at her family's burial place.

I'm going to a funeral tomorrow, just a friend who was 81, known him 25 years. He may not have been a close friend, but he was a guy I would talk to at the bar at my club. Its a strange feeling to think that one minute your talking to someone and the next day they will not be there again.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do I think about death?

I've already written my will, detailing exactly what I want to happen on my death.

If I'm in hospital, I don't want to be resucitated.

They can take any of my organs they want for research or transplant.

I want a cardboard, biodegradable coffin, and I want to be cremated. I don't want any kind of service at my funeraly - I'd prefer it if people didn't actually attend, just slide me off down the chute and have done with it.

I don't want any kind of headstone, or somewhere that people feel obliged to visit.

I don't believe in any kind of reincarnation or life after death, I believe purely in 'you live and then you die'.
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